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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What hidden value judgement? I pointed out that rioting or other violent action, or at least the credible threat of, is necessary for any progress.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're both right.

Often, descriptors like simply, only, just, etc. are used to diminish or manage perceptions of dissent.

However, saying 'no it's just a riot' in this case is merely accurate grammar, as it's applying needed nuance and limits to the definition of civil disobedience.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

As you pointed out, this is partly a matter of interpretation. So opinions could reasonably vary, and I respect that.

I believe it's clear enough that in this case, saying that the situation is just a riot, is a way of taking focus away from the other things that were happening. Perhaps it wasn't a riot and then turned into one, and maybe we should be focusing on what happened first. Or perhaps there was a riot happening along with something else, and that second thing is worth mentioning.