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[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (66 children)

I've been saying for years this was going to be what happens, instead of common sense gun laws they are just going to tax the shit out of it. Which sucks for law abiding responsible gun owners who just want to hunt or defend themselves. This is what happens when one side refuses to come to the negotiating table.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The constitutionality of this tax will come down to how the Roberts Court wants to interpret and apply the 200-year old concept first issued in an opinion during the Marshall Court -- the power to tax is the power to destroy. The government cannot use its authority to levy taxes in a manner which significantly encroaches on the exercise of an enumerated right. I like CA's idea here, but it's all going to come down to implementation.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"As a giant chicken with a southern accent wearing a judges robe, this here tax is unconstitutional on the grounds of me not liking it." -The Roberts court, most likely

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Foghorn Leghorn had more integrity and righteousness than the justices on the current SCOTUS

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

In my heart I genuinely wish that I could argue to the contrary, reality is just dashing my dreams term over term.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 months ago

There's also this crazy thing called an illegal market which circumvents tax entirely

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, define "refuses." Suppressors, SBS, SBR, 1932; Background Checks, 1968; Full auto ban, 1986; AWB, 1994-2004, expired, little to no measurable impact on crime.

And yet they push and push to get the AWB back despite the fact that those guns make up less than .01% of our gun deaths, why would I think that rounding down that .01% would be "enough" and they wouldn't then progress to handguns which are demonstrably the highest contributing type of arms? Frankly there has been those compromises in the past and yet they continue to push already, it wouldn't make sense for them to stop pushing for the 99.99% once they get the .01%, they just know the "well handguns for protection I understand but those assault weapons are automagical murder machines" crowd won't go for it yet.

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[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And sucks even more for POC because statistically they don't have the monetary means that white people do. So higher taxes mean less legal guns for POC... Oh, wait, the law is working the way it's intended.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but you say that guns are a human right like housing or food.

No one needs a gun.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

De facto is a right in the USA by the 2A. Try again. I didn't say it was the equivalent of food but it is a right.

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[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is what happens when one side refuses to come to the negotiating table

Say for the sake of argument, I am President of the NRA and I can persuade my members to agree with whatever comes out of negotiations and you are on the other side, seeking a 'reasonable compromise' on gun ownership and some 'common sense' gun control legislation.

What are you willing to compromise on? What are you willing to give up??

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