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[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The thing that gets me with this is, how is anyone to know?

If you present as the gender on the door, what are they going to do? Rip your pants down and check? Cop a feel? That’s assault. Peep through the stall? Pretty sure that’s a misdemeanor, most places.

I get the idea behind this is terror, but “Fuck off! I’m shitting here!” should be the only response anyone should get to a nosy question in the bathroom.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's because these people have the "we can always tell" mentality. But then they're the same people who go harass trans guys on Twitter telling them that they will never be women....

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

They have an outdated idea of trans people and think that trans women are literally just guys in dresses (kinda like 80s transvestites, if that word is still usable). So they expect to see fucking Frankenfurter from Rocky horror or Eddie Izzard (she's fantastic and all but let's not kid ourselves that she's what they expect trans women to look like)

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well considering that one woman literally pulled another woman's skirt down (not all the way) because she felt it was too short, in front of other people, and then called 911 herself, I wouldn't put it past someone in a bathroom to do worse if they "suspected" someone was trans, whether or not they actually are

Also I'm sorry for all the commas but I already did it and I don't want to edit it lol

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

And people who would do this think they can always tell. What are the odds they’ll believe a 6’2” woman when she says she was born with the vulva they just made visible?

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not all trans women pass. It takes a combination of the genetic lottery, a lot of money, time, and work to pass. Not everyone has that luck nor those resources. Nonbinary folks are also put in a no-win situation.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve met and currently work with more than a few folks, who were neither trans or crossdressers, of both genders that would have trouble “passing” as their own gender.

On a completely unrelated topic:
https://codes.findlaw.com/al/title-13a-criminal-code/al-code-sect-13a-3-23/
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2020/title-16/chapter-3/article-2/section-16-3-23-1/

I don’t spend as much time in these states so you’ll have to find code yourself but here’s some interesting summaries:
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-mississippi/
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-texas/
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-louisiana/
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-florida/ https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/stand-your-ground-in-tennessee/

I always prefer to avoid conflict wherever possible, even if it means not going somewhere I want to go, but it’s always nice to know I have options should things go sideways. Always learn the law in your area. It makes making a profit easier.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

I will just never go back to the south. I won't spend tourism money in places that want me dead. I am not shy to tell friends and family to avoid it too. Most people are unaware of how bad it is getting out there for trans people and when I tell them they usually agree that they don't want to support those economies either.