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DevOps is usually more backend or full stack (though in bigger companies it's its own job entirely).
Python is always a good start in that regard. But honestly, the basics for programming are pretty much the same across languages (with a few exceptions). So you could go with JavaScript, C#, Python, ... whatever beginner friendly language you prefer.
This course gets you started extremely fast (Python, but in your browser, so no need to install anything): https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-python-3
Personally for a learning language and if you're using Windows I'd lean towards C# (With Visual Studio Community, it's free). It does give you a good idea of what data types, classes, etc. are and if you want to dive deeper you can transition to C++ afterwards to learn about memory management and pointers (but it's not a fun language to work with, in my personal opinion).
As for DevOps, you could do the first courses for Azure (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/training/paths/microsoft-azure-fundamentals-describe-cloud-concepts/) or AWS (https://skillbuilder.aws/?dt=sec&sec=fdt).
If you have any questions, feel free to ask :)
Hey! Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a detailed comment. Yes, I truly appreciate the advice. That much said, I am more interested in the free and open source side of computing. I am sick and tired of Microsoft and want to pivot away from them. I get enjoyment out of Linux and the command line; real satisfaction and fun. Nevertheless, I am going to check out the AWS stuff! πΊ
Oh and I didn't answer your original question: If you have to select between Ruby and JavaScript, 100% go with the JavaScript course :)
Though DevOps and "free" or "open source" doesn't really mix. The moment you touch DevOps you'll either land at Amazon (AWS) or Azure (Microsoft) or Google (Google Cloud).
Sure, in theory you could set up your own servers with your own clusters, but then you're a system administrator and not DevOps.
Btw. Azure might be Microsoft, but they have plenty of Linux options on there, it's not a Windows shop at all.
Then I would go AWS all of the way and hopefully on Linux. And yes, the prevailing advice is JavaScript so I've been convinced. π
Just be careful with AWS, you need a PhD in it to even approximate what hosting will cost you. The company I currently work for is all-in on Azure, which has been working out great so far. It's also much easier to see your monthly cost on there with budget alerts and so on.
Either way, DevOps is extremely expensive. For the money you pay for a single VM in the "cloud" you could get a really nice virtual server from your favorite hosting provider. But if you just want to learn for now, stick with the free offerings (and be very careful with them! Plenty of stories of someone getting a $1000 or even $15000 bill because they messed up along the line).
Ah will do! And thank you for the warning!
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