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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah Nazis are a problem in pretty much all subcultures. Industrial, punk, goth, and so on. Subcultures attract people who don't feel like they have a place, and this is the group extremist groups target.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah Nazis are a problem in pretty much all subcultures

I don't know if I agree with that; well, I agree they're always a problem, but if you're a Jazz or Blues fan for example, I imagine there aren't the same issues we have in Metal.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They get the other side of the coin. Friend of mine has played harmonica for a long time, has played with/been in numerous blues bands. You will find a lot of heavily anti-white, black nationalism. Like the "we need to exterminate all white people for any chance at peace and prosperity" types.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Last I checked, yes here it is:

As an ideology, black nationalism encompasses a diverse range of beliefs which have variously included forms of economic, political and cultural nationalism, or pan-nationalism.[9][7] It often overlaps with, but is distinguished from, similar concepts and movements such as Pan-Africanism, Ethiopianism, the back-to-Africa movement, Afrocentrism, Black Zionism, and Garveyism.[5] Critics of black nationalism say it promotes racial and ethnic nationalism, separatism and black supremacy, and they compare it to white nationalism and white supremacy. However, the Southern Poverty Law Center says that black nationalist groups exist in a "categorically different" environment than white nationalists in the United States.

I'm white, my dad (also white) played blues guitar, and I've never run into anything remotely like what you're describing.

And if it turns out that the SPLC was totally wrong, and 'Black Nationalism' takes over and commits genocide on white people, that's definitely something we'll be worried about.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Well your experience has been very different. He has been handed literature explaining how the prosperity of the african people can not exist in world with europeans and asians. My friend is not white, might be the difference here. He has run into numerous recruiters for this ideology in a number of different forms. Any form of ethnonationalism is bad. Just because where you live, it is a minority, and therefore isn't some eminent concern of going third reich, does not make it not bad.