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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It’s not a majority, but it is a higher risk factor. Especially when Sweden/Finland produce a lot of metal bands and are also a higher risk factor for nazi sympathy - by and large they certainly don’t idealize them but they also aren’t always vilified to the same level as you might expect elsewhere

[–] arken@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Nazis are absolutely vilified in Sweden and Finland, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'd say NSBM bands is a lot more prevalent in Eastern Europe and Russia.

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, and the aggression in music easily syncs with literal agreccion of the third reich, so it's a low-hanging fruit if you don't have other ideas for music and songs. Lemme try:
Panzer death
Panzer death
Blood soaked brothers march
Panzer death
Panzer death
Glory to our patriarch

bonus points for samples of machinegun added to drums, lyrics in German, bandmembers photographed in pseudo-nazi uniform, etc.

Some idiots will listen that on repeat in no time

Edit: Listen to Hanzel und Gretel - SS Deathstar Supergalaktik, it covers most of the the cliches

[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Tried to find hints that SS Deathstar Supergalactic is parody. Found none. Help :(

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's also something that's more related to some genres of music than others. It's definitely a much bigger issue in metal than you would find in, say, jazz or electronica. On the other hand, it's more overt than the kind of Nazis you find in country music, and they get much more publicized.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's definitely a much bigger issue in metal than you would find in, say, jazz or electronica.

For a while, and I assume it continues today, there was/is a synth subgenre called fashwave, a Nazi-adjacent take on vaporwave. I imagine they have a niche elsewhere in the electro scene, and prob. industrial too?

[–] shuzuko@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

Fascists have no culture of their own except violence, they have to steal everyone else's.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Well that's just lovely. I shouldn't be surprised.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There was a whole movie made about how the Nazis weren't all that into jazz.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108265/

Although they did record some as propaganda to play back at the west over the radio.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The good ol’ American tradition of forcing squaredance onto kids in schools—I was a victim myself from the ‘80s to the mid ‘90s—was borne of the fear and disgust of the black and Jewish roots of jazz, with Hitler idol Henry Ford being a big advocate for it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yep, and one of the ways cannabis was demonized in the first half of the 20th century was by associating it with jazz culture, making it very much something that "they" did.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

jazz or electronica.

Gabber pretty much inherited all the Nazis Punks threw out of concerts and are, to their credit, also not terribly unlikely to throw them out of concerts. There's definitely infiltration going on when it comes to Dark Techno. When it comes to Jazz it shouldn't be too terribly fucking surprising that white supremacists don't like it. It was outlawed in the Third Reich, though they also produced their own for foreign propaganda purposes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It was outlawed in the Third Reich, though they also produced their own for foreign propaganda purposes.

Funny, I replied to someone else saying almost the exact same thing, but I couldn't remember the name of Charlie and his Orchestra. Thanks.

Someone else told me about the electronica thing earlier and I shouldn't have been surprised.