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[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The game is designed to be played with multiple players. Even in single player mode, you take turns against the computer which is technically a player in the game. There is no mode where you're just playing with yourself, I would not by any means consider it a single player game and that's by its nature. Basically a computerized board game that requires you to play against an opponent human or ai

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're trying to argue that Civilization is a multiplayer game first, you're starting a losing battle. Civ was always and still is a single player game front and center.

You might not like that, but that's how the game has always been.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You take turns against other players, real or computer. Doesn't matter who's in control of the players, even since CIV 1 this is how the game works. It's turn based, by nature it's multiplayer. The game is literally designed as a multiplayer computerized board game. This is absolutely not a first player game front and center. A game like that would be pure single player experience like a Mario or Zelda game

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turn based automatically makes it multiplayer? Interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, not necessarily. But the fact that you have all players starting on relatively equal footing competing for a win condition does

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll pass that along to the millions of players that have never touched multiplayer in a Civ game before. Thank you.

Literally what is the difference between a single player game of civ and a multiplayer game besides how you communicate with the other civs?

spoilerIt's the same exact game

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multiplayer means against other humans.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it though? If all the players start on relatively equal footing with similar goals where only one can win, does it matter who is in control of the other players?

I will say, this topic also spurred a healthy discussion in my house. In the instance of civ, I firmly believe AI opponents who are playing the same game as you qualify it as inherently multiplayer even when playing alone.

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Riveting rebuttal. Way to explain your reasoning. You won me over /s

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't need to argue over what are basic definitions.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me either. Multiplayer games have multiple players playing. Wether the thinking is done digitally or organically makes no difference. It is possible to play a multiplayer game alone, that does not make it a single player game

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multi player are multiple humans. You're very wrong about this.

I'll be sure to pass that along to our AI overlords after the apocalypse

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on. You really think that when you play against a CPU you're playing multiplayer?

Wow

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think when you play a multiplayer modes game alone your suddenly playing a game designed as single player? Just because you can play a multiplayer mode alone doesn't make it a single player game.

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A player is a person.
Nobody plays multiplayer Civ except for a small niche group of people.

You're simply wrong, that's all. You can learn you're incorrect and accept that knowledge. Or you can continue to reply with wrong statements.

Either way, have a good one.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I hope you continue to enjoy playing a multiplayer game alone with the computer

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wish you luck on your continued journey to understand English. I understand how it can be confusing. I think you'll get it though, you show promise.

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, multiplayer. Multiple players. Not multiple humans. Sorry you have such a hard time understanding this. But you are playing a multiplayer game wether youre playing with bots or humans.

[โ€“] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multiple players means human players you moron lmao.

I hate to resort to name calling like that, but holy mother of Mary you're dense. It's way too funny. I feel like I'm talking to my five year old. Except he understands logic.

You keep being you, Klieg. You beautifully helpless mess. Kisses!

[โ€“] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Multiple players means multiple players in the game you moron. I can't believe you're so dense as you can't imagine a non human player in a game, especially in a computer game! Most five year olds are able to recognize when they're playing against an opponent. Human or CPU, it's a player that you are competing against. Nowhere in any definition except the constraints of your limited mind does it specify that the other players in a multiplayer game have to be human controlled. The fact that you legitimately are getting triggered by this would be hilarious if it didn't indicate a large problem with your cognitive reasoning.

Think outside the box. You've been playing a multiplayer game this whole time.