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Edit: TIL it doesn't matter if you make your community on Lemmy or kbin, they're federated and will have equal exposure (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by UnhappyCamper@kbin.social to c/AskKbin@kbin.social

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Thanks everyone for the help.

Original post: I want to create a niche community, but considering Lemmy can't see kbin magazines, wouldn't it make more sense to make the community on Lemmy, that way people from both Lemmy and kbin can be a part if it?

Maybe I should have posted this on a nostupidquestions community, I don't know.

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[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy can see kbin magazines. I am posting this from Lemmy!

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 6 points 1 year ago

Caveat: Magazines, just like lemmy communities from other instances/servers are not there by default. Users or admins have to seek them out.

[–] UnhappyCamper@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I feel stupid, is this new that Lemmy can see magazines? Originally could they not?

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 5 points 1 year ago

Don't. I think it was broken.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I joined I could, then I think maybe federation was wonky for a bit there, but it seems to be all good now.

(hi from lemmy)

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, kbin is only something like a month old and our dev did NOT expect the influx that he got. He knew about the stuff at reddit, but thought since lemmy was both older and everyone's first mention, he might get a few.

Nah. Thousands in a matter of days. He had to turn cloudflare on for a few days, which would break the ability to federate but would also keep the server from certain doom while he scrambled to upgrade things. Guy's got my sheepish respect.

So that's the majority of why we went dark on you guys, but it feels like we're going pretty good now. Still working things out, and from what I hear there are also issues on lemmy's side — bugs in the default config/in 0.18.0, lemmy.ml specifically and possibly deliberately blocking outgoing kbin info — that are adding additional difficulty between us.

Especially with lemmy.ml. It seems to have gotten a fuckton of communities I would have been super interested in, but until the devs decide to unblock kbin.bot, nothing I interact with on .ml will reach back to them, nor would any of our own posts/communities. It's functioning like a noncommittal softblock, and since the instance ignoring our entire platform seems to be a giant one, it's damaging.

Hi back from kbin, though :)

[–] yunggwailo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I have no problems not being able to interact with the overt tankie instance tbh

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the details. I'm on kbin too but I'm a sucker for an app so lemmy sunk my time. Looking forward to the day I'm using Sync for both platforms.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do get that, especially when the overall reason for all this was the apps. And of course we don't really even have an API atm in order to churn them out at the pace Lemmy is. I only know of Artemis for kbin, although I'm aching to try it when it's done

[–] rideranton@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The API is on its way though, I've only got a few more endpoints and permissions to add before it will be ready for testing

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But how did we get here? On kbin trying to search for a Lemmy community I can't find it, and on Lemmy looking for kbin the same happens. And yet here we are because someone figured out how to find it and subscribe.

[–] garrettw87@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Those kinds of things are slowly being ironed out, I believe.

[–] vaguerant@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If nobody has ever subscribed to a foreign instance's community/magazine before, it won't show up on your home instance. Currently, the best way to pull it into your local instance is to copy its web address on the other site into your local search.

e.g. If you wanted to pull in kbin.social's AskKbin from lemmy.world you'd find its URL, https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin, and paste that address into your home instance's search box. As long as somebody has done this once, AskKbin will now show up in regular community lists, searches, etc.