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i hope its allowed, if not pls tell me and i will move it to another instance.

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[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not that I'm a scholar, but iirc petite bourgeois aren't considered nearly as problematic in commie literature as regular bourgeois.

Considering I'm on Lemmy, someone will correct me if I'm wrong

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are still buying and selling commodities produced with the exploitation of the workers, and even if they have let's sya 1 employee, According to the labor theory of value, that's an employee exploited (paid less than what he produces) AND EVEN if they don't have external employees, F- . Engels in the origin of family says that capitalistic behaviors can be found in the family (ex: parents, partners and children coerced to work for basically pennies)

[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In hydrarchy, the captain is paid x2 of regular crew (iirc). In worker co-ops it varies, but the highest pay worker is paid x5.

In like amazon i heard jeff bezos makes x364 ish of the lowest paid worker.

If captain pay = regular crew pay, then no exploitation?

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

come on not all small shops are coops

[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've worked for a few small shops, and yeah I agree they're non optimal.

If captain pay = regular crew pay, then no exploitation?

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No exploitation = you're paid the value of your work, impossible in capitalism

[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Worker coops can and do exist under the larger umbrella off capitalism, and within that company, you're paid reasonably. If capitalism stop existing what difference would that make to Worker coops?

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that not all small shops are coops and that not all coops are small, ergo. Shoplifting from small stores ≠ shoplifting from coops

[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Okay ic we mostly agree :)