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[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m not opposed to regulation or taxes. Companies are not another form of government and they need checks and balances. Companies serve at the will of the state.

I am just against excessive or needless regulation. We all want safe airplanes as an example and that isn’t something the market should decide.

What sets me apart from most conservatives is I’m not religious. As such I don’t have the moral baggage they carry. I’m not anti-gay or anti-trans or anti-much that doesn’t impact me. You want to hire a hooker? As long as it’s consensual it’s shouldn’t be illegal.

Taxes by itself are not a wealth transfer. They should be used for the generic common good. Law enforcement, roads, parks, etc. that isn’t a wealth transfer. That’s maintaining a society we all want to live in.

Give cash to poor from my tax money is a wealth transfer. If wages are not high enough, increase wages. Don’t take my money and hand it to someone else. The government controls minimum wages and should increase it to avoid wealth transfers with tax money.

And no I would never fit into the democrats. I’m neither woke nor a racist. I’m more inline with old school republicans before the religious right invaded the party.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see where you're coming from and agree on some points. I have a lot of semantic differences and view things like what constitutes a transfer of wealth differently. The conclusions I draw from those differences are obviously different as well, but taking what you've written at face value we're on the same page.

And your last bit is interesting. Have you read about the southern strategy or the great party switch? The party switch started around the civil war but was only really solidified until the 1980s. If you find your values more in line with old school republicans, you may find more common ground among Democrats. I don't care for either but it's intriguing to me that you're identifying as a conservative but you're saying things that would find you a lot of like-minded company among Democrats. If anything, I'd say you're more isolated and hold broadly unpopular values among conservatives based on their recent actions.

What's "woke" to you? That term has become so watered down in the last ~10 years it's basically meaningless. The Democrats as an institution are definitely racist, I won't disagree with you there. But the Republican party and outlying right wing groups are significantly more racist and oppressive. It's essentially a part of their platform. The Democrats just pretend to not be racist and sign racist legislation when nobody's looking.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

And your last bit is interesting. Have you read about the southern strategy or the great party switch?

I have. The party switch is more of a myth. The parties never switched, some views have changed and evolved but the devil is in the details.

When I use the term woke, it focuses on things that are not important but you want to appear they are. You will see the focus on things such as sexuality, or skin color but they actually do nothing to help those groups. It focuses on panem et circenses

[–] Twelve20two 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Give cash to poor from my tax money is a wealth transfer

Does this include things like food stamps and social outreach programs for people facing homelessness and dealing with drug addiction, or is it moreso just universal basic income? Also, how would you feel if people who make way, way, way, way more money than you had to pay way, way, way more and you in turn would be paying less?

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does this include things like food stamps and social outreach programs for people facing homelessness and dealing with drug addiction,

That is wealth transfer.

[–] Twelve20two 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for responding. I do find it interesting that you're ok with taxes in a general sense but that you're selectively ok with how they're used, though.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

I hate the term taxes are theft, but if they are not used for everyone (Bridges, roads, etc_ then it is theft. It is taking my money by force and handing it to someone else.

That doesn't solve any problems. It only creates problems. Now I am not against short term welfare programs but welfare should never be a way of life except for those who can't work.

Living on welfare should not be a thing. A job should pay a living wage. Everyone should work as it's good for people. The government tries to find the most screwed up way to help people which ends up doing little. The real solution is the government should focus on jobs paying enough that people don't need welfare.