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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You know how you get all of those rights back?

The second.

Except that what passes for the left in the US is terrified of actually exercising that right in order to get the other ones back.

(PS - 1A rights in re: religion are fully exercisable, as long as you are white and evangelical.)

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Buddy, if you picked up a rifle to take down the system you'd just end up with a tank staring back. Guns aren't going to get us out of this.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That entirely depends on how many people pick up a rifle. One person? Yeah, it's Chinese repression of democracy all over. 1M people? Nah, the gov't gets overthrown.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You need more like 18 million. The stats on insurgencies are 10 percent supporting and 1 percent acting. And supporting isn't just in theory, these are stash houses, escape routes, and weapons builders. But that's just to get started. You need to convince a majority of people otherwise when you actually try to march in the open the military will just crush you.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

This thread is MF weird.

[–] wolfshadowheart 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That seemed to be the plan once before. That didn't work out so well for the people who tried it.

I think it was some time around January 6th.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Insufficient people, insufficient support. You need more than 10,000 people to win a revolution in a country of 340,000,000. And 6 January was really close; if they'd actually been armed--and the overwhelming majority were not--it would have been very, very different.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

100%.

And, BTW, I see that as an individual right, not a collective right.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

This is a thread full of one person talking to himself. TF.