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Anon notices what they've taken from us (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 10 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

"Replaceable by user" has a lot of wiggle room. It could still be a 20-minute process that risks damaging other parts and requires specialized tools.

If phones are to keep their water resistance, they almost certainly won't be tooless, and will involve swapping out gaskets. It'll be something you can do to replace a failed battery, not a quick swap because you went camping for the weekend and threw an extra battery in the bag since there are no outlets.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Could you read and understand the information behind the link before replying with nonsense?

FYI: there were waterproof phones before replaceable batteries disappeared. Also the Fairphone for example IPS rated for resistant, so not perfect, but it's possible.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"User replaceable" just means that they have to make it possible, not easy.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Usually legislation is intentionally vague like that, ultimately courts will decide what that really means in practice.

It will end up being just reasonable. Any person can have a reasonable expectation that they will be able to replace the battery with a reasonable amount of time and effort, with readily available tools, with a reasonable amount of guidance.

If you were a judge would you say that it's reasonable to expect people to be able to replace soldered components on their phones?

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago

None of that addresses his point that "removable by the user" is not clearly defined. I didn't see any definition for it in the link you posted.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Apples replacement kit requires like 11k deposit and comes in two 75 pound pelican cases.