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'100-200,000, not two million': Israel's finance minister envisions depopulated Gaza
(www.haaretz.com)
this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2023
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I vote for anyone but Biden, or even a no vote, is a vote for Trump.
If you think Palestine is in bad shape under Biden, try to imagine how much worse it'd be with Trump.
The only way to get Democrat candidates on the left is to crush the right wing so that the Overton window moves.
First they think of not voting. That's one vote for Trump.
Then they decide to vote for Trump. That's two votes for Trump!
By this logic, every dollar you don't donate to Biden is a dollar donated to Trump.
You are the uncle Tom piece of shit that has lead this country here.
I do not vote for Biden. I do not vote for Trump.
You can't make me.
Your rhetoric is outdated, idiotic, and counter-productive.
One of those two will be president no matter what you do. They will then be in a position capable of inflicting great damage. Trump will use that position to hurt more people than Biden. The math here isn't complicated, and it continually astounds me how many people on the left cannot actually solve the trolly problem when faced with it for real. It really shows which people are engaged in politics as a means to an end rather than as personal expression or a hobby.
Dont. Support. Genocidal. Fascists.
I don't support anyone. I oppose the worst outcome, and seek to steer our course away from it. Only narcissists and hobbyists hyperventilate about who they are "supporting".
I engage in politics as a means to an end and nothing more. I take the best option available and I move on to the next task. To do otherwise is to value the self above the collective, and as a communist that is not a luxury I'm afforded.
i'm not willing to kill someone so i'm not going to flip the switch and send the trolley hurtling at them. even if all the democrats do it, i'm going to choose not to have blood on my hands.
This is selfishness and self-importance. You value the cleanliness of your own hands more than you value the lives of those you might save. You would rather stand idly by and allow even more people to die, than get involved but dirty your precious hands in the process. But I guess if you feel like you're above it all and better than the rest of us, there's not much I can say to convince you to descend from your ivory tower and risk getting dirty.
you can clutch your pearls all you want but I'm not killing anyone.
Well I guess as long as you're just letting people die passively you can feel detached from the outcome. You've saved your soul, your hands are clean, you are absolved.
if the option is let innocent people die or murder innocent an innocent person, it's no choice at all. I'm not participating.fortunately, I expect to be able to vote for cornel west, so I do have a way to participate!
Me, watching people die: "Don't look at me, I voted for the guy that got 0.5%, my hands are clean"
imagine thinking it's ok to vote for genocide on the premise that it's going to happen whether you vote for it or not. imagine: voting for genocide.
I'm not voting for genocide, I'm voting against the genocide getting worse. But again, you value this reactionary notion of purity more than you value the lives of the victims you could have saved. It's all about how it makes you feel, not about having an actual impact.
There are two choices, I will vote for the one that results in the least people dying, instead of acting pompous and self-important. I will then begin working to make the next choice more in our favor. And I will keep repeating this process until I die, because life is hard and then it's over.
I commend you for having the stomach to sit passively on the sidelines, watching horrors unfold around you, without ever getting involved. I lack that fortitude.
Nobody is going to make you vote one way or another, but please recognize the following:
The United States is currently a two party system. It sucks. We need to push for more ranked choice voting, as well as direct popular vote.
However, until we're able to achieve something that makes this parties viable, we will continue to have issues with the right wing getting undue influence in our politics.
Vote with your heart, but make sure that you're okay with another Trump presidency of you decide not to vote for Biden.
Keep in mind as you do so that more than one state had enough votes for Jill Stein that if they had gone to Hillary, Trump never would have become president.
We should have viable parties outside of the two not great to horrible parties we have now. But that's simply not the way our government works as it stands now.
Last thing: you've become a single issue voter. This is the lefty equivalent of only caring about abortion and ignoring literally everything else. Politics is complicated, and I personally find single issue voters incredibly shortsighted and lazy.
Considering... considering... nope, wont support genocide.
Instead youll sit idle by as fascism takes over. You are no less responsible if you dont vote.
Biden. Is. Funding. Genocide.
He is actively exploiting Bush era "emergency powers" that were never rolled back after 9/11 to sell artillery to Israel.
He is fascist too.
This is what happens when you let soft brained morons convince you that supporting lesser evil is mandatory. You support evil and both sides continually get worse.