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apparently this is in response to a few threads on Reddit flaming Starfield—in general, it's been rather interesting to see Bethesda take what i can only describe as a "try to debate Starfield to popularity" approach with the game's skeptics in the past month or two. not entirely sure it's a winning strategy, personally.

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[–] Kir@feddit.it 79 points 11 months ago (4 children)

While this is true, it is a terrible way of debating with the public.

And while users may not be able to understand game design decision and background, they can well be aware that those decisions brought to a really bad game.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

I don't love how this is phrased, but it's not wrong.

The harsh reality of creative industries is that people are gonna be uninformed, dickish smartasses on social media (and... you know, traditional media, too), but they don't owe the creators anything, so if they don't like a thing they don't need to be right about why they like it.

But hey, I also don't resent any creator for venting reasonably on social media about this stuff every now and then. I think it's a dumb, potentially career-ending thing to do, but I get it.

[–] andrewrgross 27 points 11 months ago

Not only that, but their blindness is the result of developers choices on what they share. If you don't want people making incorrect assumptions, give them more info. Don't tell them to just forego having any opinion on the matter.

If it looks like a decision was made cynically, prove otherwise, don't just say 'No, you're wrong, you just don't know!'

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But gamers don’t actually need to understand game design or why a certain choice was made.

I said this in another thread: if it’s a shit design, it’s a shit design. Knowing why the shit design was made does not suddenly make it not shit. In fact, I do not care to know why you made that decision in the first place - if it’s bad, then just own up to it and either try to fix the issue or actually resolve to do better next time.

[–] teuast@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To borrow a phrase from Steve Hofstetter, I've never flown a helicopter, but if I saw one in a tree, I could still be like "dude fucked up."

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

You don't have to be a chef to realise that a shit sandwich tases bad.