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The International Cricket Council has become the latest sports body to ban transgender players from the elite women’s game if they have gone through male puberty.

The ICC said it had taken the decision, following an extensive scientific review and nine-month consultation, to “protect the integrity of the international women’s game and the safety of players”.

It joins rugby union, swimming, cycling, athletics and rugby league, who have all gone down a similar path in recent years after citing concerns over fairness or safety.

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[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Studies have shown that after around 2 years of HRT the strength of trans women level out to the average of cis women. The only things that really stay the same are things like bone length /bone density, and it's not like there are no cis women with dense bones that are tall.

Edit: taken from another comment of mine:

found a more recent study that states endurance things like running and swimming level out by around 2 years, with most things level out after about 4 with the exception of upper body strength. Which is still declining in trans women past that point

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgad414/7223439

So the 1 year that is recommended is too soon for trans women athletes to start competing, but for endurance sports like racing and swimming it should be fine by 2 years. Other sports may need more time, but also we shouldn't be delaying the lives of trans people for so long. We need to find a good middle ground because it's not like exceptional cis women don't exist in those same sports.

This is all also completely ignoring that if a trans women starts hrt before puberty then there is no real difference. So the real solution is to let trans teenagers transition.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't their trans women who don't take HRT?

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That compete in sports? No.

The vast-vast majority of trans women take HRT and many of the ones that don't, don't because of a lack of access.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Makes sense thanks for the explanation. Yea, I figure it's way less common for a trans woman to not want to go the HRT route if they have the ability to, but I know a few must exist.

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They do exist and they are just as valid, but they're definitely not the ones competing in sports (plus there are already requirements for trans women to be on HRT before competing in women's leagues)