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[–] 0x815@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@Robin.Net

I would agree, but there are people here on Lemmy and elsewhere who don't distinguish between Palestinian people and the Hamas. It's like a 'tankie' versus 'anti-tankie' game, 'us and them', and nothing in between. If you don't choose, each side accuses you of being the enemy.

Addition:

Just watched this interview (video + transcript). A journalist tells about his visit of tbe occupied territories in Palestine. At some point he arrives at one of the many checkpoints.

And I was walking to the checkpoint, and an Israeli guard stepped out, probably about the age of my son. And he said to me, “What’s your religion, bro?” And I said, “Well, you know, I’m not really religious.” And he said, “Come on. Stop messing around. What is your religion?” I said, “I’m not playing. I’m not really religious.” And it became clear to me that unless I professed my religion, and the right religion, I wasn’t going to be allowed to walk forward. So, he said, “Well, OK, so what was your parents’ religion?” I said, “Well, they weren’t that religious, either.” He says, “What were your grandparents’ religion?” And I said, “My grandmother was a Christian.” And then he allowed me to pass.

So there, even as you just walk around, you seem to be checked 'to whom you belong'.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt 2 points 1 year ago

The problem is very simple. Israel and their neoliberal allies want you to think the only sides are Israel and Hamas. But you and I support the third side, the civilians. You simply have to redefine the argument. You tell them, "I am against Israel. And I'm against Hamas too. I've picked my side, and it's the innocents".

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

The selective outrage is also very telling. Palestinian civilians killed by indiscriminate bombing? Apoplectic red-faced spittle-flying fury!

Ukrainian civilians or even Syrian civilians killed by the same? Relative silence even though in both cases it was even less provoked. What's really going on here? And I don't mean that as a rhetorical question either; I honestly don't know. I have a theory, but I'm not entirely confident in it just yet.