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[–] protist@mander.xyz 85 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hot take here, judging by the company, but I think Biden's doing great. He's moved the federal government in a more progressive direction than any presidential administration since Lyndon Johnson, and I'm confident with more Democrats in the legislature he could do even more.

Simultaneously, the opposition has become so dangerous that it's absolutely critical the Democratic coalition remain together. There are always going to be criticisms you can level against any leader. I certainly don't agree with Biden 100% of the time. But if you check out the other hot takes here, making Biden out to be the devil, or saying they'll never vote for him...those people are trying to elect Donald Trump again.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Biden is definitely doing much better than I expected. No question. Nowhere near the Bernie Sanders type that we need, but a pleasant surprise.

In another time, I probably would go on a rant about Boomer politics killing us slowly. But since Republicans have literally become fascist lunatics, Democrats have to stick together no matter what.

History has shown us just how bad things can get under fascism, and these Republicans are dangerous, stupid, and cruel, and stupid. And yes, I know I put stupid twice.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In another time, I probably would go on a rant about Boomer politics killing us slowly. But since Republicans have literally become fascist lunatics, Democrats have to stick together no matter what.

God, isn't that the truth. If you told me in 2012 that Mitt fucking Romney, theocrat and corpo cocksucker extraordinaire, was going to be one of the least fascist members of the GOP in 10 years, I would have laughed in your face.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or that we'd be happy with Liz Cheney?!

For real - coming to the realization that Liz was basically the only adult in the room that is the GOP who was willing to take any semblance of a leadership position staunchly against, you know, conducting a fucking coup was a bit of a shock for me.

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just impressed he didn't crack down on the left first thing.

Not snark here, I had worried he would.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no problem with democrats 'sticking together' as far as voting blue next election, but don't sit back after you've done that.

The seeds for fascism in the USA are the same ones that were in Germany when Hitler rose - rampant inequality and poverty leading to desperate people leading to christian nationalism, and later fascism. I hate to break it to you but a Democratic party with no one to the left of them has no incentive to fix the root problems, and every incentive to stay on the take and then escape to their favorite country with their wealth if they push it too far.

Campaign finance reform, election reform, labor reform ... pick a cause and find some friends. We cannot have a democracy without working for it. Fascism will rise in the absence of effort.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What we need is a left-wing candidate to win a primary, and pull the party to the left the way Bush and Trump pulled their party to the alt-right

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's the #walkaway all over again, which really was conservatives saying that they won't vote for democrats "again".

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if I'd say great, but he was considerably less disappointing than I'd feared.

Ultimately, we need an overhaul rather than incremental change - but bet your ass I'm voting Dem for every Federal office come 2024, Biden included. The overhaul the fascists promise, after all, is not one that can be reversed.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but bet your ass I'm voting Dem for every Federal office come 2024, Biden included.

And just a reminder, why don't we all get warmed up voting in our local elections in 2023.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I have to admit, I was definitively in the “they’re really gonna make me vote for Joe Biden?” Camp, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised. His work with the railroad union really solidified it, where sure, don’t love the strike breaking, but the post-strike negotiations end results was certainly a win for those same rail workers.