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Downvoting me doesn't make needless killing any less cruel.
Plants are living things too, right? So why is it ok to eat them but not animals? Are you saying we should not eat plants too, because it also harm a living thing and we should all just die?
How about any carnivorous animals (which surprise, we are partially) do they need to stop eating meat too?
Most farmed plants are used as animal feed, eating plants directly uses much less.
So even if this nonsense argument had any validity veganism would still be the answer.
Humans have the capability to consider the consequences of our actions, other animals don't.
Lions sometimes eat their kids, should it be okay for humans to do the same because lions do it?
You misunderstand the ethics of veganism. Vegans aim to reduce suffering. So far, science points to most animals being likely to suffer similarly to how we as humans suffer, since we share evolutionary history and similar biological systems.
Plants do not share these systems, nor have any evolutionary pressure to be able to suffer or feel pain, since they would not be able to do anything about it anyway
It's not a blanket "living things are sacred"
Furthermore, if you really cared at all about the poor suffering plants, you'd know that the vast vast majority of plants grown by humans are fed inefficiently to animals. So, by going vegan, you'd be hugely reducing the number of plants you are causing harm to
Finally, carnivorous animals have literally nothing to do with veganism. Please stop trying to discredit a movement you don't even understand
I mean we are a species have deficiencies without supplements if having a full vegan diet, how can you say we don't need animal products when not using them causes our body problems?
The only supplement needed on a plant based diet is B12, which is very easy to get.
Meat eaters also supplement B12, it's just that the animals are fed the supplements before you eat them.
Do you also reject all other modern human inventions?
https://www.saintlukeskc.org/about/news/research-shows-vegan-diet-leads-nutritional-deficiencies-health-problems-plant-forward#:~:text=Compared%20to%20the%20standard%20American,%2C%20and%20high%2Dquality%20protein.
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You gotta make sure any diet you eat is healthy, of course, thriving on a plant based diet is easily achievable.
Plenty of people with meat-filled diets experience deficiencies all the time so eating meat also may lead to nutritional deficiencies.
Oh, of course, and tbh I kinda agree with a lot of what vegans have to say but I also know that tbh most people are not going to go vegan.
I know you probably think I am sitting here eating a steak now and that I only want to eat meat at this point but not really, I am actively trying to reduce meat in general in my diet and replace it with more veggies both for health and moral reasons. I can also think that (most) farms should absolutely treat animals better before slaughter. I can also agree that there are some animal products that are just unethical imo like veal or any baby animal used for food, or say a Foie gras.
But I also know that I am unlikely to cut ALL meat out of my diet, and I can also find the slaughter of far older animals to be less morally unjust, I mean I am ok with people taking what ever body part from me when I die, it's why I am an organ donor, I would like to still be useful somehow after death.