this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2023
746 points (90.5% liked)
Games
16800 readers
907 users here now
Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)
Posts.
- News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
- Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
- No humor/memes etc..
- No affiliate links
- No advertising.
- No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
- No self promotion.
- No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
- No politics.
Comments.
- No personal attacks.
- Obey instance rules.
- No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
- Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.
My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.
Other communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Definitional arguments are the least entertaining for anyone. So I'm sorry we have different definitions. Allow me to expand your quote from Wikipedia
"In law, a monopoly is a business entity that has significant market power, that is, the power to charge overly high prices, which is associated with a decrease in social surplus.[3] Although monopolies may be big businesses, size is not a characteristic of a monopoly. A small business may still have the power to raise prices in a small industry (or market).[3]"
In your opinion, can steam unilaterally raise the price of all games, and people will just have to accept it? If yes then sure it's Monopoly.
If steam increases all game prices by 100%, and doesn't give the developers a cut, I imagine we're going to see people move to GOG epic etc.
Update: https://www.cheapshark.com/search#q:The%20Last%20of%20Us%20Part%20I
I've never heard of this site before, but it compares prices against different game stores. So last of us part I, is available on a variety of different game stores, at different price points.
What would you call the 30% Steam tax, a justified price? Furthermore you can have a monopoly even if alternatives exist because especially at a certain size many of your users will be lazy and/or simply don't care enough to switch. I like Steam and their service and prefer it over other storefronts except itch.io because they do a fantastic job and don't act especially evil in most ways but I also aknowledge that a small developer essentially has to eat that fee. The only real competitor is Epic and that's just a terrible user experience so many (including me) will rather buy a different indie game than use that and releasing a game on your own can be hard and expensive, well and also comes with less publicity because Steam is also a great way to get some promo.
I don't disagree with your assessment of steam.
We are simply disagreeing about the definition of monopoly.
This is no longer an interesting conversation for either of us. I refer you to the dictionary, and you refer me to your usage. So we're stuck in a loop. Regardless, it's been nice chatting with you. I look forward to a better future