The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.
Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"
See you're pretty much proving my point lol. Instead of actually hearing people out, you just start pushing your own view calling me a liar, even though I have not lied. Why do this?
One person I know personally and regularly chat with is a teen who got on puberty blockers. it made their life a living hell, so they went off of them for the time being and are interested in pursuing hormones once older. It happened because these sorts of spaces push and encourage people to do such things.
I myself was harmed from the misinformation peddled by these communities. It did a number on my mental health, and messed up my hormone therapy for a long while before I figured out why there was a problem (because I was lied to by these communities).
I've spoken with several people who have gotten SRS, have permanent scars, regret the surgery due to butcher jobs because they were encouraged to rush into it with an unknown unvetted surgeon, rather than being cautious and careful.
I don't know what your experience in the LGBT community is, but to say there aren't people being harmed by this ideology is simply wrong. I lived it. My friends have lived it. The people I've spoken with have lived it. You simply can't lie to me. Maybe you don't see it, but we do.
Now, there are valid reasons to transition, and medical transition does help certain demographics. Different conditions require different treatment.
But this denialism of people's actual lived experience and pushing everyone to transition if they even question it, is doing actual real world harm.
You are acting as if I'm some hateful person or just "upset at nothing". No. I'm someone who has seen and experienced the harm that comes from this stuff.
You may disagree or have your own views, but to unilaterally say that any view other than your own is "harmful" just demonstrates the point I'm making here. In that what is "harmful" is ultimately different depending on one's beliefs.
I think what beehaw is doing is harmful. You clearly do not. So when you say "we should defederate with instances causing harm" to me that says we should defederate with beehaw. So why is your view of "harmful" biased for, while others' view of "harmful" is not?
I took a look at detransitioners like you suggested a few comments up. Did you know that in a study of people who've undergone transgender surgery, only 1% expressed regret? Do you see why your statements seem unbelievable? If you claim to have personally spoken to multiple folks who've regretted going through the transitioning process, you've come across a very rare group of people.
Yes, very few people who have gotten surgery historically expressed regret. Though you need to be careful when looking at numbers like that, because many of those studies were done prior to 2015, back when more caution and care was in place for the medical treatment process. Nowadays that is not the case, and so such a study no longer applies.
When people who actually need the care get it, yes, it's beneficial and rarely harmful. But when people who don't need the care get it? it ruins lives.
For reference, the study in question was done in 2021. I believe these numbers would still be valid.
Well no. It's a meta-study, so it's pulling in data from older studies. If you look at the stuff they're using much of it is from pre-2015. Example: Cohen-Kettenis et al, 1997. Or Blanchard et al, 1989.
Likewise, with newer studies, it'll likely be covering all transition cases, which doesn't really help give insight as to whether the surgery is helping for a particular demographic, only whether the current prescription approach is working overall.
Fortunately, the study shows the causes of regret that the patients cited. So let's look, yeah? Here's some reasons from pre-2015 studies:
Mostly it's either about poor surgical results, or societal acceptance. A few were misdiagnosed.
And for post-2015:
Mostly they are due to rushing into things, misdiagnosis, improper treatment for the issue, etc.
I imagine many more of these "true regret" and "rushed into it" along with "didn't do what I wanted" regrets will happen.
The reality is that regret is predictable. We know quite well what causes people to regret and detransition. It's not a mystery. We know that misdiagnosis, improper medical treatment, people rushing into things, and giving people false expectations are what lead to regret and inevitably detransition.
What are the things that beehaw and other lgbtqia groups are doing? pushing misdiagnosis, improper medical treatment, having people rush into things, and giving people false expectations.
I'm guessing that when you categorize by biological status/situation you get a near 100% regret rate for non-transsexul/non-transvestite. probably a significant regret rate for transvestites. and a near nonexistent regret rate for transsexuals.
We're getting off track though. again my point here isn't to debate the trans topic, but to show that different people see different things as "harmful".
Your do realize that people can "rush into things" against their therapist's opinion as well, correct? Decide "obviously this is the solution, time to book a surgeon. Oh, well, I can't afford that good one, so I'll go to this other one over here" all the while the therapist is trying to say "wait! We're no where near getting to a diagnosis!”
Yeah. and these sorts of transgender/lgbtqia communities like on beehaw pretty much encourage that.
I literally saw none of that - not just from the post you linked, but elsewhere. Do you have a link actually encouraging that?