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For reference (as per Wikipedia):

Any organization that designs a system (defined broadly) will produce a design whose structure is a copy of the organization's communication structure.

— Melvin E. Conway

Imagine interpreting that as advice on how you should try to design things, lol.

Tbf, I think most of the post is just typical LinkedIn fluff, but I didn't want to take the poor fellow out of context.

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[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I don’t wholly disagree with your point, but even if I take that context at face value it still comes off as “ hey if your orgs are designed in perfect harmony w/ your objectives, your product will meet those objectives”.

Sure that’s logical as far as it goes, but it’s pretty much never the case in practice that you have a context that’s actually optimized to needs like that.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like the subtext the post doesn't say explicitly is that most management structure are not setup this way and thus software projects end up with a non-optimal design.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That is pretty much a given. Why else write about it at all?

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I read it similar, but also kind of from the other side: If your organization is set up in a way that ignores the technical requirements of the product, your are going to have a bad time.

And yes, of course this is more often on the bad side than on the good side in practice. If everything was already fine most of the time, there would be no point in discussing this topic.