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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are you being purposely obtuse, bud?

Let's go to extremes... If actual Hitler worked on a project should we all just use that project even though Hitler made it?

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

> If actual Hitler worked on a project should we all just use that project even though Hitler made it?

It's called Volkswagen, one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Touché. However the VW of today is vastly far-removed from VW during WW2.

In fact the only reason VW exists post WW2 is because of a British army captain who wanted to get the factory up and running and build some cars. He thought the design of the beetle was inexpensive, practical, and cool.

(Interesting sidenote, the designs of the Beetle were offered to British carmakers, who rejected it, stating that nobody would want a car so cheap and devoid of luxury. The Beetle went on to be the most popular car in the world.)

Continuing the analogy, VW is more like a fork of the original VW project started by the Nazi party.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes and I don't buy them. Do you understand?

[–] Zengen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comparing Brendan eichtoo Hitler doesn't seem logically coherent but let's just use your fringe example. We do actually continue to use shit invented by Hitler all over the world to this day. Volkswagen to give an example. Lemmy is made by tankies. So... The answer is that so long as the thing is sufficiently useful. Yes.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't use VW or brave. That's my point. It's easy to wave away suffering if you benefit from that suffering.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You use thousands of products. A majority of them probably have some heinous shit behind their executives.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're absolutely right, but I try to make my contributions to suffering as low as I can.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The choice might not always be obvious. What if the project improves the society or saves human lives? In such case we might decide it's better to support the project, but make it clear that we don't support his other activities.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't though.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you invoke hitler, you already lost the argument.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you say so.