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I think this decentralization and federation is what web3 is all about, without all the corporations calling everything to do with monkey pixel art that costs a million dollars "web3"

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[–] slashzero@hakbox.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What is sort of bothering me is how as it becomes more popular, I've already seen a few people asking about adding advertising to lemmy instances. I hope advertisers are not looking at diminished revenue with the reddit blackouts and trying to move to Lemmy already. I just can't stand ads, and hope to never see ads interwoven with posts and comments.

[–] omni_memer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suppose the benefit to lemmy is that you could always migrate to another instance if yours starts pulling that shit

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know, while account migration is technically possible it isnt implemented yet, so if a server decicdes to shut up shop due to lack of funds your account there is lost and only federated content on other instances will be saved.

So once migration of user accounts and communities is implemented we should be able to easily survive waves of server closures.

I do worry that it will eventually coalesce into a couple of ultra-large servers and lose a lot of it's decentralisation though. gotta spread out!

[–] omni_memer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, I suppose creating alts on multiple instances might work as an alternative in the meantime. I don’t know if that’s frowned upon though.

Completely agree on the last point, though. It is crucial that we spread out!

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I've made about 10 alts so far, just making sure to secure my username in case I do need to migrate somewhere

[–] pivotraze@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t believe it’s frowned upon. I have one here on infosec.pub and another on fedia.io. I primarily use infosec.pub though

[–] slashzero@hakbox.social 3 points 1 year ago

True enough. And I know I’m just a drop in the bucket, but I will do exactly that if it ever happens.

Technically it should already be possible for a company to advertise here, no? Not in the "there are little video boxes you can't get rid of (barring adblocker extensions)" but in the sense that one could have their employees create accounts and make comments and posts to promote their products. They'd probably have to do it subtly and sneakily, because they'd likely get banned or if they had their own instance, defederated, but they could. Wouldn't even need to pay anything beyond employee salaries to make it.

I feel like "proper" ads would be more difficult to implement, because even if the software were updated to include the ability to add them, people could and likely would make forks of it that just didn't display those from federated servers, or clients that don't on any server, and because the software is open source there would be no stopping it. An instance could defederate instances using such an ad-blocking fork, but that would risk ending up themselves isolated and therefore lose much of their traffic and viability as a platform.

[–] doylio@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I think it might be ok if some instances decide to run ads. Someone has to pay for the server costs, and ads are an option.

The great thing about the Fediverse is you can move to a different instance if you don't like it :)