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So far Lemmy is vibing. Everyone here is excited and optimistic and willing to put up with a few rough spots to be part of something.

When the Eternal September comes, which it will, how does a Lemmy instance deal with bad actors?

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[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, as we always do, digital systems should represent the real world, not be a distortion of it. Protocols are meant to standardize communication but the rights to re-distribution have never been guaranteed . Now many understand why this may not even be feasible in a real way.

There will never be just "one zone" and there shouldn't be, however control over your interaction with these zones should be up to you not brokered by a proxy. To a degree we do this out of necessity though IMO the larger goal would be to give the user the ultimate option even if deployed infra is helping make it happen.

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, as we always do, digital systems should represent the real world, not be a distortion of it.

It's OK for online systems to represent a projection of the real world. Not every feature of the real world needs to be represented in every online system.

It's OK for the furries to have their server where everyone pretends to be tigers and dragons.

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

its also ok for them to go to private residences and dress the part, im usually speaking of data, trust and execution realms. These need to represent the real world since things like giving up your ownership of your data and systems should not be a requirement to use a novel app. This is not how the internet was intended to operate and in the days of 6ghz silicon and ultrafast dram the cryptographic overhead of doing things in a way where you own your digital domain in the same way you might own a house is very real.

Where you want the technology to not represent the real world is in its abilities to scale, and that's what's really crazy where were are with technology today individuals can be companies and small teams are international orgs. This is not just a concept for entrepreneurs but a concept for anyone who wants to take more control over thier presence.

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still okay for people who don't dress the part to pretend to be tigers and dragons online.

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thats not what i mean either, just like in the real world you can wear masks and costumes or not. you can even wear masks that arent obvious simply pretending to be entirely different people. what else are you looking for, hit me with it.

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same Elder Internet that spawned Usenet also spawned furries, which seem to have become a standard test case for "so just how tolerant is your community?"

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i mean as far as they go, strange to me and mostly harmless. I'm running a SFW instance, no fukkin clue what the line there would be (halp is welcome lol), was not a huge thing in the forums I ran back in the 00's. Overall im not queazy but im sure there will be drama, these days I expect drama over everything.

this is also a reason I run topical subs rather than just having OT, general or shitpost subs. Ill have an OT channel usually but if its drama becomes too much a distraction its well enough to just shut it down.

for the more personal and off-topic style subs where people are more "hair-down"....fireworks im sure.

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh hey, you've actually got your own instance? Cool! I should do that too.

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 1 year ago

its not hard, ansible playbook and overall not hard on the machine.