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[–] funkless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So news of an online store doing shady shit constitutes as “tech news” because they run a web site?

So writing "R MUTT 1917" on a urinal and putting it in an art gallery constitutes as "art" just because they said it is?

etc etc

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to you it definitely does, that was literally your argument for having anything remotely tech related as tech news.

My argument was that it needs to be actually related to tech/art to considered that. If we want to be super critical of art then just writing that at an urinal may or may not be art. For the sake of argument let's say it's not. But if someone takes a picture of it (or turns the entire thing into a composition) and puts it in an art gallery then it is art. It has to contextualized somehow as art to be in a gallery and that contextualization defines it as art. Similarly tech news should be in in the context of tech, which is why something like rebranding a company is not necessarily tech news.

[–] funkless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, I was using the famous example that broke the Fin De Ciele -era snobbery about art and the distinction between artist and artisan to make a point.

my point is that you can't define it. So you say "should posts about the wheel be included?"

and the answer is if you exclude all things about wheels where do you draw the line? someone creates a new type of ball bearing that revolutionizes manufacturing, but thats not allowed because it's a wheel? Someone uses a new archeological discovery about an ancient device to invent a modern one? No posts about cars, trains etc? No posts about waterwheel generated activity?

It becomes impossible to police.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Like I said before, I understand the philosophical aspect of this argument. Strictly philosophically I even agree with it, but the argument has no practical value because it's essentially saying "moderation is pointless". In practice most people would still want moderation because some moderation (even if it's not 100% correct) is better than no moderation.