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No. Says EU.
Guy Vesthoven regulary makes public statements about us being welcome back any time.
Do you mean Guy Verhofstadt? He's an idiot that sold out his country years ago and subsequently ran to Europe to fill his pockets some more. He just wants a larger union so his pockets can get filled even faster.
Yeah, him, got one of thos foreign names ain't he, don't do them anymore in independent Britain. ;-)
haha yea it sounds foreign to me too and I'm a fellow countryman of his :D
He is the only one.
Honestly, I can't see the EU making it easy for us, but why wouldn't they want the world's sixth biggest economy on the inside pissing out rather than vice versa?
Cause you behave like Hungary. We don't need a third "Democracy" in eu that hates EU and fucks shit up.
In what way are we like Hungry, I'm eager to hear this.
Declining democracy, Propaganda against Germany and France, behavior in general (constantly bitching about everything and blaming all bad on others)
We literally just had three by-elections where the incumbent party lost two seats in areas they've held for years? The propaganda comes from the free press, not the government. People like Farage who are the worst for it aren't anywhere near power. Would you prefer us not to have a free press?
You really think we have a free press in the UK. what a stupid thing to say. The main press are all rightwing and ran by a small group of people. This is why it was big news that Starmer talked to Murdoch. Everyone with any sense knows that Murdoch has bought up more papers to push his propaganda than anyone else in the UK. If you want news do not look anywhere near the UK media.
That is a free press, regardless of whether we like Murdoch or not or the political lean to his papers, the fact that he as a private citizen is able to buy up and run papers and channels without government interference is freedom.
Except government does interfere with our media. Emily Matlis who worked for the BBC said as much when she quit there. There is extreme prejudice given to Tory media when it comes to TV coverage. This has lead to a cost with left bias media.
FPTP is objectively a shitty voting system, up to 49% of the people will go without representation.
I don’t know if that’s necessarily evidence of a decline in U.K. democracy, but it does still make the U.K. a flawed democracy.
All democracies are flawed in someway, the only way for it to be pure would be to have a direct democracy and have a referendum on everything which isn't workable at all. Plenty of countries use FPTP, it's not perfect, but it's a recognised form of democratic desicion making the world over.
I literally haven't seen any propaganda about France or Germany so the propaganda machine might be broken.
I'd also say that most of the bitching and blaming others people outside the country see would probably be the Tory cunts in charge who are hopeless sacks of shit that just want to fatten their wallet before they retire.
I definitely saw it prior to Brexit, but not from the governments but from the media.