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The original was posted on /r/onguardforthee by /u/SAJewers on 2024-10-24 21:32:00+00:00.

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[โ€“] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I want to know how she died. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.

[โ€“] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago

Knowing the how and why of workers' deaths only makes you a bad person if you want it to happen again.

[โ€“] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would that make you a bad person?

[โ€“] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 4 weeks ago

I was looking at it as kind of โ€œmorbidโ€, but your question is a good one.

[โ€“] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Likely asphyxiation, and not the pleasant, "drift off on a carbon monoxide high" kind of asphyxiation. The "oh God, my lungs are melting and I can't breathe" kind of asphyxiation. The only hope is that it got hot fast enough that her brain melted before her lungs, so she didn't have time to understand the pain. All in all, it's not a good way to go.

[โ€“] bane_killgrind 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think Walmart spends that kind of money on their ovens

[โ€“] Eranziel@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the only way someone is dying in a furnace before feeling pain is if you're dealing with molten-metal-type temperatures. Not a bakery oven. I'm sure this poor woman experienced excruciating pain for far too long.

[โ€“] nik282000@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I work at one of those furnaces, if you fall in molten metal it will not be fast. You are EXTREMELY buoyant in liquid rock/metal.

[โ€“] Eranziel@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely terrifying... but thank you for the insight.

[โ€“] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

I think about it a lot while staring down into 'The Pit' on the production floor.

For those playing at home, try this:

Heat up a frying pan on low heat and throw some water in there. It sizzles and bubbles weakly but evaporates quite quickly.

Now heat up the pan over medium-high heat. Throw water in there and watch it turn into little marbles that dance around the pan. It seems much more violent but notice that the water marbles last way longer because theyโ€™re actually floating on a cushion of steam. This is also why they seem to fly around pan so rapidly: the steam cushion removes almost all of the friction.

This is called the Leidenfrost effect. Very high temperature frying pans actually conduct heat into the water more slowly than lower temperature ones because the steam cushion acts as an insulator.

Well it turns out if you put your hand in molten metal the same thing happens! The moisture on your skin flashes to steam and creates a barrier which slows down the conduction of heat into your skin. Of course, if you fall into molten metal you may not be able to get out. The Leidenfrost effect also doesnโ€™t do anything to protect you from the intense thermal radiation being emitted by the molten metal!

Funnily enough, this also happens if you pour some liquid nitrogen into your hands. It dances around just like the water does in the hot frying pan. Your skin is like a hot frying pan compared to liquid nitrogen and the nitrogen gas produced is like steam in this case.

[โ€“] funkajunk@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago

Curiousity doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you a person.

[โ€“] AJ1@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

well I mean yeah, as stated in the article that's what the investigators are trying to determine. it's pretty much the first step in any investigation like this. just because her body was found in the oven doesn't automatically mean she was baked alive