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[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I think you're doing yourself a disservice here by calling these terms esoterica. Political ideologies being clearly defined and understood on a wide scale is not a negative thing. Most of the terms here in this dude's post are talked about as solutions (or status quo) in the current era, all of it should be fresh unless you willfully ignore every single political post on every social media you use.

Way more importantly: You really think the last 20 years were a shining example of public intelligence? Truly? With the denialism, the outright lies that have been signal boosted, the public outrage over hypothetical people and made-up organizations who never existed? How can you justify saying "these terms are esoteric" when they are literally modern? How can you justify this position you're taking where low/no information being the norm needs to be enforced for things to be "normal" for you? You're flippantly dismissing the idea that people could have opinions or motivations you aren't instantly aware of, which is stupid beyond belief.

The entirety of democratic politics is conflicting opinion/value/ideology being weighed by the many. What the hell is the problem with letting people who are informed talk about it in a public space?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Political ideologies being clearly defined and understood on a wide scale is not a negative thing.

I think the concept of a political ideology needs to die. People not identifying with them and instead listening to peoples actual ideas is a good thing. Essentially everyone has a unique set of values shaped by their experience, they should listen to and interpret the ideas of others based on those values- instead of trying to categorize them and build an identity off them. Its a similar problem to the DSM, and leads to tribalism.

You really think the last 20 years were a shining example of public intelligence?

I think way more people are questioning authority figures, though that might be recency bias.

the outright lies that have been signal boosted

When before the lies were the narrative.

How can you justify saying “these terms are esoteric” when they are literally modern?

They exist to categorize ideas and people into neat little boxes, rather than actually evaluate individual ideas. They are also totally ineffective for communication, when each boxer disagrees where and what the boxes are.

How can you justify this position you’re taking where low/no information being the norm needs to be enforced for things to be “normal” for you?

Where did I say that?

You’re flippantly dismissing the idea that people could have opinions or motivations you aren’t instantly aware of

When did I do that? Instead I'm stating my own opinions, and I'm happy to hear yours.

What the hell is the problem with letting people who are informed talk about it in a public space?

When did I try to stop that, I'm one of the nerds I was talking about.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"I believe it is their opinion,", genius. The irony is frankly uncomfortable.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Great response