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Israel and Zionists are really doing a number on people who spent a long time saying "Jews don't pull the strings in multiple industries - that's just antisemitic conspiracy mongering".
Where I'm from we had a literal Nazi problem cropping up. Eventually after a year or two we nipped it in the bud with very little fanfare... A year later some pro-palestinian university students held some protests and now the media are decrying rampant antisemitism is everywhere and we should all be concerned.
....they weren't so vocal when it was actual Nazi groups cropping up, but pro-palestinian protestors and all of a sudden Zionists and the Israeli lobby are getting stories written.
Very sus. Funny how when it's a high-investment geopolitical issue the wallet comes out, when it's against Zionism.... But when it's against Jewish people, as a racial category, far less noise and fanfare was made.
Because the far right Israeli politicians are buddies with far right Christian nationalists (who in turn make up many of the Nazi groups)
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197956512
https://www.juancole.com/2022/03/preferring-democratic-nationalism.html
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/right-wing-extremist-group-targets-pro-palestine-figures-in-france/3069385
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/10/college-campus-protests-far-right
They (in particular groups like AIPAC) prefer to reject the opinions of actual Jewish people outside Israel in favor of working with local extremist groups. Israeli far right jews frequently call other jews "antijewish" just for calling for peace. And Nazi types love to help them out. Groups like jews for peace gets ignored because nobody supports them publicly, and Nazi types gets protected by right wing politicians like Republicans.
The only thing they have in common is that all those groups are totalitarian authoritarians, with similar obsessions about Israel's borders. You'd think those extremists would have a bit more survival instinct - but who am I kidding, if you have brains and common sense you don't become that kind of extremist...
And as usual it's a problem because conservatives funnel money to hate groups like this, in all countries
That makes sense. Israeli has been a predominantly right wing country since the assassin of Sharone and subsequent spread of conspiracy theories around that event.
What I don't get is center leftwing governments of western nations blindly supporting them. I'm guessing that's because of how far right the center left actually is?
But I mean, if you look at the history of how Israel has treated US authority/sovereignty:
The Lavon Affair having been an Israeli plot to blow up US and British buildings in Egypt, in order to frame islamic terrorists.
The Israeli Nuclear program as having been started with 100 kg of refined Uranium they illegally stole from US stockpiles.
The attack on the USS Liberty, attacked by Israel with the unsuccessful aim to sink it (34 dead, 117 injured).
...and that's not even getting to the child sex trafficking Mossad agent Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislain Maxwell...
The US seems quite mad to trust such a country, providing them with more financial and military aid than most other countries combined (with the exception of Ukraine, which is a far more just and stabilizing war)...
...it's just a real bad alliance for the US, eho I assume are thoroughly infiltrated by Israeli influence when it comes to the military industrial complex.