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Because Libertarians only ideology is selfishness. They refuse to understand basic concepts that even anarchists and libertarians well understand and acknowledge. Like the fact that sometimes systems need exist. But no matter how well a system it's designed. It cannot be perfectly equitable, and still requires intervention. Or that the non-aggression principle is nothing but a thought terminating cliche
I think you meant "non-libertarians" in that second sentence, and how is that any different from the systems in place now?
No there was a difference. It's subtle. But it is there. Libertarians with the capital L is a noun. Whereas libertarian with a lowercase l is an adjective. Nouns and adjectives are different. Nouns can be applied to places things and people. Whereas adjectives are generally descriptive of those places things and people.
So it is entirely possible for someone to call themselves Libertarian but not be libertarian. If I named my dog Communism, would my dog be communist? Libertarians rely on this ambiguation as a cover for their true beliefs. And to hear and destroy the reputation of their enemies. People who are actually libertarian.
I did detect a bit of sarcasm due to my misunderstanding of context. So my bad, but let's try to refrain from that. I'm not going to be sarcastic with you, but I digress...
Do you have an argument for what else I said?
No, no sarcasm intended. My apologies if it came off that way.
Like anarchists, libertarian minded people believe in equity. And will fight for everyone to have it. Not just themselves. Libertarians will claim they value equity. But wouldn't lift a finger to ensure others had it.
I'm probably a bad libertarian then, but libertarian none-the-less
Realistically gate keeping libertarianism is very anti libertarian. Just as belonging to a group such as the Libertarian party. With the goal of forcing your ideals onto others is also very anti libertarian. But if you support ensuring equity for all. Even if you disagree on how. You can still be libertarian.
You used libertarians as a noun, though.
Nouns are capitalized wherever they appear in a sentence. I used it as an adjective applied to a group of people who espouse actual libertarian values.
I meant your sentence "...even anarchists and libertarians well understand and acknowledge."
That's using it as a noun. Not all nouns are capitalized in English.
Unless you're German or several hundred years old, no, nouns are not capitalized. If you wanna use grammar as part of a political debate, which doesn't make a lot of sense to begin with, at least make sure to know what you're talking about.
I suspect they're making a distinction between big L Libertarians (i.e. an-caps) and small l libertarians (i.e. mid-19th century left wing libertarians).
Indubitably
Thank you. It did take them explaining it to me since context is difficult in text