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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There should be a businessman shoveling money into the government’s mouth

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

except it's the other way around?

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

it's a cycle, really.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

mm not quite, businessmen ~~bribe~~ donate to politicians so that they can be above the law and profit off citizens anyway they want to.

Although what you said is true for businesses that sell to the military. That would look more like a businessman shoveling money into the government’s mouth (aka bribing to get government contracts) and then eating the government’s shit

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

politicians are not the government; people are the government. they give politicians money in exchange for larger tax cuts and subsidies. that's taking money from the government, not giving it any.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

politicians are not the government

Wh- what? Show me a wikipedia page for a government official that doesn't have the word "politician" as part of their description.

people are the government

Maybe in an ideal democracy, but America (the country this comic is referring to by criticizing Reagan) is a republic

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

first of all, a government official? i didn't say government officials aren't politicians. i said the politicians aren't the government.

second of all, context clues:

we were talking about money here, so guess what, I was talking about money too. the government's money is your tax money. and money rich people give to the politicians doesn't go to the government, it goes to the politicians themselves, otherwise you couldn't buy a politician. billionaires and corporations don't give money to politicians so you can get more public services.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My god you are so insufferably pedantic, please go back to reddit

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

this isn't pedantry. you fail to understand basic concepts. you claimed bribing politicians is the same as shoveling money into the government's mouth, when it's the exact opposite. paying taxes is giving government money. bribing politicians so you can get subsidies and tax cuts is sucking money from the government. if you can't tell the difference, which is like night and day, that's not on me.

[–] BastingChemina 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The donate and lobby so they can be above the law AND receive ~~barrel of cash~~ subsidies from the government