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I know MediaBiasFactCheck is not a be-all-end-all to truth/bias in media, but I find it to be a useful resource.

It makes sense to downvote it in posts that have great discussion -- let the content rise up so people can have discussions with humans, sure.

But sometimes I see it getting downvoted when it's the only comment there. Which does nothing, unless a reader has rules that automatically hide downvoted comments (but a reader would be able to expand the comment anyways...so really no difference).

What's the point of downvoting? My only guess is that there's people who are salty about something it said about some source they like. Yet I don't see anyone providing an alternative to MediaBiasFactCheck...

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

IIRC, it lists a zionist/anti-Palestine news website as highly trustworthy. I can't tell which side is right, I have it blocked.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sites can be biased and tendentious without being factually inaccurate, though.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

It's possible to factually accurate with heavy bias, but since that would require selective reporting to enforce a single worldview I wouldn't consider that "highly trustworthy".

Consider the following hypothetical headlines:
"Teen Killed by Islamic Group During Shooting"
"Terrorist Shooting at Mosque, 20 Dead"

Both are technically factually accurate ways to describe a hypothetical scenario where a teen shoots up a place of worship before being stopped by one of the victims, but they both paint very different pictures. Would you consider both sources "highly trustworthy"?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm not saying they can't. I'm referring to a point that was championed in many a post by some .ml figures calling for the bot's decommissioning. I don't use the site (can't even recall its name), and can't speak for its credibility.

I guess I didn't make it clear that it was second-hand information and not my personal informed opinion. In my defense, I was running on 4 hours of sleep.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What does Zionist mean? It hasn’t affected my life enough to actually look it up but I see it on every other article in the Israel/Palestine conflict.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

wikipedia has a fairly neutral article on it.

Today, it usually refers to one of two groups- the far right political faction in Israel that believe there can be no peace with a two state solution (i.e. no Palestine,) and that it's their god-given right to murder all palestinians to acheive peace...

Or the christian zionists that support them because their own faith says their god won't come to save them until they- the jews- rebuild their temple. or something. Fundies get weird.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 14 points 3 months ago

Zionism is an ideology that believes in a Jewish state consisting of mainly Jews and which claim the land of Palestine. So Zionists want to take over Palestine to extend their Jewish state as they believe that land to be theirs.

(Correct me if I am wrong)